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Post by Death* on Jul 28, 2005 6:02:58 GMT -5
mofo/blacklines/blackmountaincollege/crackingamy
what did u ppl think ??
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Post by Just_One_Life on Jul 28, 2005 7:14:30 GMT -5
Mofo were good, intersting music but they were good. Black lines were poor, dont know what they were doing, same as black mountain college. Cracking Amy were exceleent, me and cod enjoyed our dancing with other ppl joining in (y). The other bands were rude tho, buggering off. Not exaxctly like they played well!
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Post by Death* on Jul 28, 2005 16:40:39 GMT -5
yeah i didnt like that ... bands should all see each other .... but hey they were indies washout bands anyways
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Post by Just_One_Life on Jul 29, 2005 5:43:05 GMT -5
What were they doing when that cd track started playing and then they joined in? that was jsut stupid
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Post by CMoore on Jul 29, 2005 11:23:35 GMT -5
You wouldn't know anything about new, original music if it slapped you in the face - would you really!! Cracking Amy & Mofo displayed what is truly horrendous about the whole Hampshire music scene at the moment ( well anything that seems to be connected to that 'Pompey music community forum') If Cracking Amy decide to play somewhere like London they're going to be teared to shreds - they're just yet another poor heavy pop(?)/punk band with a lack of songwriting capabilities and dire vocals. I don't really blame those other bands for leaving early - I couldn't tollerate much! I thought both the other bands were good (the washout Indies as you would call them) - they both had a sense of originality - crafted pop songs with a sonic edge that will take them far, both commercially and creatively ( both bands have already airplay and been championed by both Steve Lamacq and Zane Lowe) I don't like coming on to your forum to have a rant! But you should have a go at listening to more music other than Green Day & Blink - and you'll find a whole new sonic world ( + tell that to all the single minded bands on that pompey music forum who think they're great!!)
Christopher J Moore - Sony UK A&R
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Daktarin
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Post by Daktarin on Jul 30, 2005 3:52:46 GMT -5
New and Original and Indie Pop dont fit! its an oxymoron! you dont get new and original indie pop! cos thats exactly what it is, and thats exactly how it stays!... just because its the latest craze for all those pop-kids, doesnt acctually mean its any good! i mean wtf!? originaly - crafted pop songs? thats another oxymoron! you like using those dont you!.. they are just clones of all these other indie bands recently in the charts! and who needs carbon copys!? really!? i dont know how CA played, i didnt see the gig. but i know that it would have been infinatly better than any pop band could do!.. u say they lack originality. perhaps you should turn on the radio at some point over the next few weeks (the craze may have passed by then) and you'll see that those very, indie bands that u liked are actually just clones! of every other muva fukin song they play these days!.. indie unfortunatly has lost its soul to comercialisation! unfortunatly, it was inevitable. people where bound to realise that there is something better out there than electric beats, and they found that change in indie! well Pop - Indie.
Dak-t
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Post by Dogcheese on Jul 30, 2005 7:22:49 GMT -5
MOFO: Pretty good in ya face music, excellent front man and bassist was on the money, on too early in my humble opinon. Black Lines: Actually quite liked this band, good musicians, fitting vocals, a little 'Coldplay' but thats no bad thing. Black Mountain College: Didn't quite get it to be honest, effects heavy vocals etc. not my thing so can't really comment too much. Cracking Amy: Bloody fans need locking up!
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Post by starNOstar on Jul 30, 2005 11:43:32 GMT -5
MoFo - These guys were ok, kinda Adequate seven meets papa roach which was odd but funky! The next 2 bands blurred a bit but i think they were both ok, nothing about them that really stuck in my mind though! Cracking amy - By far the most enthusiatic and talented band there! As for the above comment from the Sony dude...fair enough we all have our own say and are welcome to express our opinions, but i really feel it is unfair to say " I don't really blame those other bands for leaving early - I couldn't tollerate much!" because it is not as though they LEFT EARLY...THEY DIDNT EVEN GIVE CRACKING AMY A CHANCE!!!! Did Cracking Amy's fans turn up just to see their set...no! they came along and listened to ALL of the bands that were there that night.
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Post by CMoore on Jul 30, 2005 13:04:32 GMT -5
In response to the fungal cream that is Daktarin:
Where did I use the term 'Indie Pop' - I don't think did!! And why do YOU seem to think that when I say 'originally crafted pop songs' that it's directly liked to the indie music genre? It could be anything - punk, metal, post-rock etc. I actually love punk & metal by exciting artists and sign acts from these genres! + It says an awful lot when you say - you weren't even at the gig that night! Doesn't it - you didn't see or hear what those other bands sounded like. So I don't know why you keep refering to Indie music because I wouldn't label those bands as being indie. You seem to be yet another person connected to the bands of this scene that has very single genre minded musical views.
CJ Moore
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Post by Just_One_Life on Jul 30, 2005 17:03:46 GMT -5
Ok lets just get this straight (Cj Moore) because you may not like Cracking Amy but funnily enough your opinion is not the only one that matters so you can listen to this. Heavy pop Band - hardly. Lack Of Songwriting ability - learn what the songd were written about. Dire Vocals - Ross's voice is fine, its strong and he is able to stay in tune so i dont see anyway how you can call it dire. And i WAS at the gig. and Sophie is right, they didnt go because they couldnt handle much, they went before they even started, that is so inconciderate, at least give someone a chance. As it happens, they are playing in London and they are going to do great because not everyone is as single minded as you. You say were single minded but have you ever looked at the band closely. They come up with catchy rhythms and lyrics and they are SO taltented. Chris is coming along to be as good as even someone like Jason Becker, (if not got there already) i mean c'mon Chris can play with his teeth!, Rick, even though he jsut plays rhythm he is so much capable of doing more and he can sing aswell. Ross manages to pump out complicated basslines while singing and interacting with the crowd aswell. Anton is able to play the drums like a robot for hours on end with plenty of technicality and speed. So before you start judging what " u cudnt tolerate" because they were just a general heavy pop band. Maybe you should stop being so stubborn and stuck up and actually look closer than the surface to what their music actually is. As it happens, i am very good at picking tunes out of music because i have a musical ear and i have to say i didnt really like the 2nd and 3rd band but at least i gave them a chance, which is more than they did
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Post by Death* on Jul 31, 2005 6:58:56 GMT -5
this is my reveiw as i watched all the bands
Mofo - brilliant drummer ... brilliant vocals ... they were poor hot in my opinion .. had the meatl/ funk going it was pretty aswell
Black Lines - They Ok when they started .. but kinda died out nearer to the end the performance started with a high and kinda sloped
Black Mountain College --- Not my thing but ok not amasing . but hey im not zack lowe.. with all my media mtv 2 poor... some channels love radio head abit too much and please would all these bands try something new .
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Post by Daktarin on Jul 31, 2005 11:58:25 GMT -5
Where exactly, CJ Moore, did i talk about my own music tastes, that would lead you to believe that i am - let me see - "yet another person connected to the bands of this scene that has very single genre minded musical views"?.. Please do tell me!? because i dont se music like Funk, ska, emo, indie, rock, metal, punk, pop-punk, pop -rock, old school hip-hop. etc, to be of the same music genre! please do enlighten me if you think otherwise tho!
Yours Mr F Cream
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Post by Cracking Amy on Jul 31, 2005 14:32:06 GMT -5
Well... i've not been here lately... but..
Quote: "Mofo were good" you're damn right they were!
First off i'm flattered that a member of Sony took time to visit our site and post about us. I would say its flattering, yeah, i'll go that far...
Second, the only people who stayed to watch 'cracking amy's set were the people who came in OUR minibus and the bar staff - Two at the most. I knew 98% of the people in that room.
I think its unfair CJ that you criticise a band without watching the entire set? Do you criticise shakespeare based purely on the strength of twelfths night??
More to the point, without sounding spiteful, to quote "should have a go at listening to more music other than Green Day & Blink" obviously you dont give these bands a full listen either... I imagine you give these about as much time as you gave 'cracking amy'.
Thirdly without sticking around and watching the whole set, how can you give a fair review? oh, the vocals were "dire" oh "they were too punk" yadda yadda we aspire to be famous, we aspire to write music that people enjoy listening to, we want to make a living playing to more than just two drunken sailors in the nell gwyenn every thursday night. And thus yeah, our music may seem cheesey or another "pop/punk" band.... big whoop...
You get this with every genre.. "oh not another [insert genre] band"...
Quote " You seem to be yet another person connected to the bands of this scene that has very single genre minded musical views." ...you're implying that we only have one genre of music in our cd collection?
...how many people DO you know with only one genre in their cd collection?
Our musical range spans from, A - Bloodhound gang - Green Day - Joseph Arthur - Iron Maiden - Machine Head - Mindless Self Indulgence - Nine inch nails - Oasis - Pennywise - Rammstein - Satriani - Sex pistols - System of a down - The Killers - Vai - Zebrahead... again, try to be less reductionist about the whole matter.
Quote: "lack of songwriting capabilities" i take this personally. Sit down, listen to our entire cd and THEN review our capabilities. Not beforehand. I'll happily send you a cd if you review it fairly and do not dismiss it without giving it a chance.
Quote: "they both had a sense of originality - crafted pop songs with a sonic edge that will take them far, both commercially and creatively ( both bands have already airplay and been championed by both Steve Lamacq and Zane Lowe)"
...surely if this was true they'd have more than three fans turn up to watch them??
At the end of the day hardly any 'fans' from any of the other bands turned up to watch any of the other bands.. in fact the other bands only came in about twenty minutes before they were due to play, and indeed left a far sight quicker. Beforehand they just sat in the bar... good way to show support...
Lastly Thankyou to everyone who came down to watch and sing-a-long with us all. You did great!
Dont stoop down to lower levels and start name calling guys, you're better than that!
...Also, i challenge CJ Moore to turn up to the next "big" 'cracking amy' gig... wherever it may be and actually watch the entire set, perhaps even give their latest cd a listen and see that they're not "just another pop/punk band". Interested? - roast888@hotmail.com
Ross Shaw - A&R Cracking Records
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hey, im cod, im 15 NOT 16 as this profile says!! and I ADORE cracking amy!! UP THE CRACKS!!!
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Post by crackingcod on Jul 31, 2005 17:05:20 GMT -5
In reply to the original message posted by Cmoore:
I'm sure that Cracking Amy (or Ross anyway) appriciate your honesty when it came to criticing their performance in Winchester but you must be able to understand how dedicated Cracking Amy fans such as myself would take what you said badly.
Firstly I put it to you that your view on Cracking Amy, although justified as you are obviously entitled to your own opinion, is clearly NOT the only one, as Ross spotted out, around 90% of the audience at the Railway Inn were in fact there to see Cracking Amy and are very obviously adoring fans as they traveled a 45 minute drive just to watch them perform for 1/2 an hour.
As I said, you are of course entitled to your own opinion but I'm sure I speak for everyone on this forum that your way of putting your view across was unjustified; I resent that you came onto a bands forum, of whom you did not really give a chance, and review them so ruthlessly... the way in which you used such "witty" barbs such as "You wouldn't know anything about new, original music if it slapped you in the face - would you really!!" were not only rude, but very much uncalled for.
I put this question to you; Why, if Cracking Amy are so lacking in talent have they had auditions to play for agents and come second in the "Battle of the Bands" competition involving a wide range of talented bands from across the South??
I admired your ability for words up until the point in which you said "If Cracking Amy decide to play somewhere like London they're going to be teared to shreds", I beleive the term is TORN to shreads, not only was this sentence poorly structured but very stereotypical and likely to be highly untrue; it is more than likely that Cracking Amy will find more people in London to join the peverbial "band wagon" that is the group of dedicated fans they have already produced.
As for their ability (or in your opinion, "lack there of") to produce good/ meaningful lyrics, i hardly thing that you are qualified to judge this as every song by ever musician clearly means something personal to them, Cracking Amy have only ever written about person experiances (e.g. "Do It Right") which I do not see you to be elegable to understand what it is about as you clearly have quite a closed mind on this matter.
I noticed how you asumed that these young men only listened to Green Day and Blink 182 which I assume you beleive to be sell-outs and very pop punk which is fair enough, but I would remind you that they are clearly "main- stream" and popular for a reason and that is that they are talented. Cracking Amy similarly are popular to such an extent that it is clear from Ross' message to you they are not bothered in the slightest by your disliking to them, everyone has their own tastes, I just find it a shame that you are unable or unwilling to hear something is popular to a wide demographic.
I hope that one day you will be able to enjoy more than one genre of music yourself and pitty for for your close-mindedness. I urge you; next time you wish to critisise someone elses music, to see if you yourself could possibly do what these TALENTED men do so well and when you DO critisise another band, to do so maturely and not use pathetic comments that are no use to anyone, particularly refering to Ross' singing abilities, but I would thank you for your comment on that come to think of it as you decribed it as "too punk", how can you be "too punk" when punk is precisely the genre they were aiming for. I chalenge YOU to widen YOUR horizon to new genre's of music and not push them aside simply because you beleive them to be of one lacking talent. Please give Cracking Amy a chance, but if you should choose not to, then I would like to inform you that it doesnt matter to us because Cracking Amy are almost certain to make it and become very successful as they are clearly appealing to many people. Thank you.
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Post by bigdave on Aug 1, 2005 4:57:31 GMT -5
Does anybody know who the two fat slags that kept screaming out at the back were? I hope they weren't anyone's mum.........besides that, Cracking Amy are just another of the Pompey scene bands who sound EXACTLY THE flipping SAME as they're influences. You've listed a few bands yeah,but they're not what I'd call diverse. Try listening to something of another genre and you may write something original!
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